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Subject: ANIMAL SACRIFICE BUST in my old town!!! 100 farm animals!!!!
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braeli_bryson


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/28/2008 10:18 AM  

this story happened yesterday and its in the town i gre up in, whgere my parents tsill ive. my bf used to live right on thi sblock 6 years ago... the irony is this block backs right up against TOWN HALL!!!!!  so the backyards and teh town hall parking lot touch!!!!

 

GREENBURGH, NY - A father and son charged with animal cruelty while planning a Santeria religious ritual may face more charges after a state investigation, officials said yesterday.

Officials said the two could be charged by the New York and New Jersey Departments of Agriculture for unlawfully transporting more than 100 animals from a New Jersey farm without proper documents.

Police said Luis Perez-Hernandez and his son housed the animals - including goats, rams, chickens, pigeons and doves - at his home on Indian Trail for an animal sacrifice as part of an Afro-Caribbean religious ritual.

Perez-Hernandez, 64, and his son, Louis Hernandez, were charged with misdemeanor animal cruelty because two of the animals, a goat and a pigeon, died from apparent malnutrition, police said. The sacrifice itself is not illegal, and the two were arrested and the animals returned to New Jersey before any ritual took place.

Police received a tip about the animals from a neighbor Aug. 15. Authorities found a pen containing about 30 goats and sheep; a half-dozen crates full of chickens, pigeons and doves; four ducks, eight quail and four turtles.

The Westchester Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals was also called.

Ken Ross, chief of the SPCA's law enforcement unit, said some birds were kept in overcrowded conditions without any water.

"Provide them with the basics, even if you are going to sacrifice them, is the proper way to do it," Ross said at a news conference.

Police Chief John Kapica said the biggest issue was not the religious purposes but how the animals were being treated.

The two were charged under the state Agriculture and Markets Law, accused of failing to provide sustenance for the dead goat and pigeon.

The father was also charged with violating a town law banning farm animals in residential neighborhoods.

The Santeria practice of animal sacrifice is not illegal and, in a 1993 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that animal-cruelty laws targeted at the religion were unconstitutional.

Yonkers resident Rebecca Moro, a Santeria practitioner, said animals are sacrificed but denounced the idea that people drink their blood.

"The animals are sacrificed in reverence, they are not butchered," Moro said. "They are offered up to different orishias (gods). The blood is the life force."

The men are due in Town Court tomorrow.


"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"

gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
PamWh


Rattitude Problem
Rattitude Problem
08/28/2008 11:04 AM  
Were they going to sacrifice ALL those animals?!

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
Mitzy's Mom


PAWesome
PAWesome
08/28/2008 11:23 AM  
That's a BIG sacrifice....wonder why so many at once??

Mary Beth, mom to the Lollipop Kids

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PamWh


Rattitude Problem
Rattitude Problem
08/28/2008 11:41 AM  
Posted By Mitzy's Mom on 08/28/2008 11:23 AM
That's a BIG sacrifice....wonder why so many at once??



I guess they had a lot of gods to appease.  They weren't sacrificed yet and maybe weren't planned to be sacrificed all at once.


PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
Tinkerbelle's Mommy


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/28/2008 11:44 AM  

I think that animal sacrifice should be illegal.  How can killing them be legal, but not feeding them a crime?  What is humane about sacrificing them to some fake God!

Here I go....maybe I need more Zoloft today!  God sent Jesus to die for us as the ultimate sacrfice, so that no other sacrifces are necessary.  Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice.  PERIOD.

braeli_bryson


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/28/2008 11:56 AM  
its disturbing. they were not to be sacraficed all at once... i think 1 a day or a week... poor animals were penned up with no food/water... suffering until the day they were to be scarificed... i love the way it is handled though...

and i quote... "Provide them with the basics, even if you are going to sacrifice them, is the proper way to do it,""

"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"

gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
JERSEYGIRL


Obsessed
Obsessed
08/28/2008 12:24 PM  

This is very disturbing, actually makes me sick to my stomach.  All I want to say is, "Thank God, my religion doesnt have any awful religious rituals."  We just pray and give our money to the Church. 


Sue "Holly's Mommy"
Amy


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
08/28/2008 12:37 PM  
Posted By JERSEYGIRL on 08/28/2008 12:24 PM

This is very disturbing, actually makes me sick to my stomach.  All I want to say is, "Thank God, my religion doesnt have any awful religious rituals."  We just pray and give our money to the Church



That's not an awful ritual? JK....you must be catholic. Me too. Darn now I feel guilty for making that joke. Better go pray.


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braeli_bryson


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/28/2008 12:47 PM  
now that that was said did you guys here about teh guy who won $3 million in scratch off lottery and donated teh winning ticket to his church?!?! he took nothing... put ticket in the bin... so they can build a new church!!!! Thats the most selfless, awesome and STUPID thing i have ever heard!!!

ill post this in another thread!

"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"

gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
susannasmommy


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/28/2008 12:47 PM  
Hmmm. We only perform full-fledged kitty abortions here. I suppose we could have considered them as a sacrifice, but we didn't think about it at the time. Oh well. Hindsight.

Seriously, that's so odd that the sacrifice isn't illegal, but the starving them is. I suppose they think its akin to euthanasia...the killing them part...and that obviously isn't illegal. I think I might be a little grossed out. And I wonder what they did to need to sacrifice SO many animals.

I don't practice santeria, I ain't got no crystal ball. If I had a million dollars, well, I'd, I'd spend it all...

Tabitha
www.myspace.com/susannasmommy
Jackie Oh!


Ratterific
Ratterific
08/28/2008 12:58 PM  
I miss Sublime
susannasmommy


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/28/2008 1:11 PM  
Posted By Jackie Oh! on 08/28/2008 12:58 PM
I miss Sublime



Me too.  I wondered if anyone here would catch it 


Tabitha
www.myspace.com/susannasmommy
PamWh


Rattitude Problem
Rattitude Problem
08/28/2008 1:20 PM  
Posted By susannasmommy on 08/28/2008 1:11 PM
Posted By Jackie Oh! on 08/28/2008 12:58 PM
I miss Sublime



Me too.  I wondered if anyone here would catch it 



I'm sure my sons would have caught that, since they have the CDs and the t-shirts, but I'm too old.    Now if you start quoting Barry Manilow or Elton John....I might recognize that.

PamWh
aka Bob's Mom

If your rattie ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
Tinkerbelle's Mommy


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
08/28/2008 7:30 PM  

Pam, I'm with you.  I don't know what or who Sublime is, but if it has to do with cruetly to kittens or any animals....I don't like it. 

tauney4


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
08/28/2008 7:43 PM  
that is down right sick and nasty i hope they get the book thrown at them!!!!!!!
susannasmommy


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/28/2008 9:36 PM  
Sublime sang a song about Santeria. No animal sacrifices. Just lots of drugs.

Tabitha
www.myspace.com/susannasmommy
singingpilgrim


Ratastic
Ratastic
08/28/2008 11:37 PM  
I think that animal sacrifice should be illegal. How can killing them be legal, but not feeding them a crime? What is humane about sacrificing them to some fake God!


The same thing happens in the slaughterhouse. It would be illegal, probably, if it was normal "pet" animals, but as we have the right to kill barnyard animals for food, and therefore, they have the right to do it, even if they don't plan on eating it. (Though in most religions that historically did animal sacrifices, eating the animals was part of the ritual).

Additionally, it might be protected under freedom of religion. It'd be illegal if it was human sacrifice, of course, but since animals can legally be killed already, it certainly wouldn't be illegal to kill animals in a religious ritual... but even if it were illegal except with a butcher's license (which I don't think exist, but our silly government likes to requires licenses for anything so maybe it will with time) I think that the freedom of religion laws would probably enable them to obtain a license as well...

I'm glad these animals were saved though!

Pamela
~Sophia Abigail's Mom~
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