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theniffs


Obsessed
Obsessed
06/09/2008 11:03 AM  

Ok, so Ive never had a dog before. I really wanted one to go for walks and car rides and geocaching with us. I got a rat terrier on Thursday night. She is 10 weeks old. Im exhausted. If this is like having a kid I really dont want one.

Now dont get me wrong I love her to death. She wont sleep unless im holding her. She cries all night (I have tried a large crate and now she has a pet yard setup in a room). I thought it would be a good idea to bring her to work so she isnt lonely but she cries and barks when I put her in the carrier. Right now she is sleeping on my lap, If i try to set her down she will cry again.

Is it better if I leave her at home and let her cry all day? She seems to be doing fairly well with the potty training, I take her out a lot. I have 2 cats so she certainly cant have free roam of the house.

Last night we tried a hot water bottle, didnt seem to help. A friend told me today to put a dirty shirt in the pen with her and something that makes a ticking noise in the room. Is there anything else that I can do to get her to not bark and cry all night or all day when left in the crate/pen?

Sara

DaisysMom


Moderator
<b>Moderator</b>
06/09/2008 11:20 AM  
I'm sorry. This is the hardest time. She is a baby dog, and as such will cry, but you're going to have to set the rules and boundaries early if you don't want to encourage her. She's too young to be crated all day while you're gone you could try placing her crate inside a penned off area or "spare" room where she can't get into anything with papers or potty pads in place for her to use. If your workplace can't tolerate her crying until she learns it's not going to get her anywhere, then you probably don't have much choice but to stop taking her.

There are many good posts in the Training Forum regarding new puppies. Try reading up there for help and hints.

Welcome to the site, be sure to add some pics. And take a deep breath or two. You can survive (and human babies are harder )

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

gwacie


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/09/2008 11:52 AM  

I know that puppies are tiring and a lot of work. That is why I often think people should look into adopting rescue dogs that are trained, tested, and past the extremely needy baby stage. However, you've already got your girl and thus you have a baby.

Try to keep in mind that dogs are pack animals that prefer to be with their packs all the time. In fact the happiest puppies are the ones who get to sleep in a big puppy pile chewing on each other.

So you, of course, need to get her to work within our HUMAN ideas of how a dog should behave. It's understandable that you want sleep (grin) and peace. For comfort try to give her something to chew, something to do, something to listen to (music, tv, radio, something) and time. I prefer when possible to use the methods found here:

http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm#puppy

Good luck and I wish you success and patience.


gwacie (Bethany)
My Doggies: http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Rescue: http://www.newrattitude.org
bluedog


Rat Royalty
Rat Royalty
06/09/2008 11:55 AM  
A quick suggestion. My sitter brings her chihuahua pup to our house on the days she is here. Because he has marked all over my house, he is no longer allowed anywhere but the kitchen and outside (another story). She keeps him crated for short periods of time in between taking him out and he will cry cry cry. If she puts a towel over the crate, he quiets down because he must feel safer and not know what he is missing. Just a thought.

Christine
Mom to Michael & Charlotte
Moose (lab), Paisley (rattie), Clark & Lois (tolerant kitties)
theniffs


Obsessed
Obsessed
06/09/2008 12:22 PM  
thank you so much for the info. believe it or not i looked into adopting before I bought her. All the agencies were very snooty and had super strict rules about adoption. they did not seem to like the fact that i had 2 cats. Even then the closest place that had one for adoption was several hours away, not exactly ideal since i would have to interview, then drive back and pick up then follow up (being the prices of gas) plus the price of adoption, it ended up being cheaper to get one from a breeder.

We just went out all the way to south campus. This was only her second time ever on a leash (she walked with me to the mailbox at home the other day) and she did excellent! she is now sound asleep in a towel wrapped around my lap. I really dont want to leave her in a crate all day either. The one I got for work is large and more like a play pen. She has plenty of toys even her what i would say is fav now.

Dont get me wrong, im not even close to thinking this was a bad idea yet. I was just wondering what i could do to help her transition into a non clingy puppy. Believe me I love that she is a snuggler but I wasnt so sure it would be so healthy to have her where she can only sleep if she is snuggling with my husband or i.

At home my husband did buy her a play yard xt from petco which is nice sized and it is setup in a spare room. She has towels for bedding, potty pads, food, water and toys (plus the hot water bottle we tried last night) and she still cries.

I think she is very lonely.
DaisysMom


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06/09/2008 12:28 PM  
She may be more content to be in a properly sized crate (for potty purposes) at night beside your bed. That's what I did with Daisy. No sleeping in the bed until she was 100% potty trained overnight.

Tracey - Darlin' Daisy's Mom

theniffs


Obsessed
Obsessed
06/09/2008 12:42 PM  
here is her picture

http://www.theniffs.com/sarasjunk/pixel/pixel.jpg
theniffs


Obsessed
Obsessed
06/09/2008 12:42 PM  

here is her picture


btw i cant post on this site with safari (mac) whats up with that.

tiggarat


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
06/09/2008 5:25 PM  
aaww, she's a cutie. you got a lot of great advice above. enjoy your pup while she's so tiny...this stage passes quickly, and you'll miss it, especially the snuggling phase.

quick question, though...when looking at adopting an older rattie, did you look at ratbones rescues at all? many here are either foster parents for ratties, or have adopted from them...

Lisabeth

furbabies: Lucy and Molly (1 1/2 yr old decker ratties), and Rosie (3 yr old dobie)
Buddy - gone but never forgotten.

"I don't think he has any idea he's a dog, really. Of course, he thinks he has a rather odd figure for a man" - Dodie Smith
theniffs


Obsessed
Obsessed
06/09/2008 5:39 PM  

I think i did I recognize the name, I checked their website just now and the only one they had in california was a male and I wanted a female. Maybe after I get used to Pixel and the eldest kitty passes on I can get another and will look at adoption again.

gwacie


Rat-A-Tat-Tat
Rat-A-Tat-Tat
06/09/2008 5:40 PM  
For future reference, Ratbone doesn't limit adoptions of dogs to the state they are in.

gwacie (Bethany)
My Doggies: http://www.myadams.net/dogs/
Rescue: http://www.newrattitude.org
Amy


Bratty Ratty
Bratty Ratty
06/12/2008 3:23 PM  

Let me tell you Sara, when yaz was a puppy I was the one that did a whole lot of crying. And I MEAN a WHOLE lot. I have three kids who were at the time 8, 6, and 2. Yaz was SO much work than I remembered a puppy being. And this breed does seem to have alot of seperation anxiety issues. It DOES get better. Yaz just  turned 2 a couple of days ago. Now don't get me wrong, she still has her moments when I want to scream. But, for the most part she is the best dog I have EVER had.


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Ratterific
Ratterific
06/12/2008 11:22 PM  

Tink was very young when she came to us, and I was up at night for several weeks.  We crate her, but her crate is right next to me on the floor.  Also, we wadded up an old pillow and stuck it in the back of the crate so that her space was small enough for her and not too open.  She also has a fleece blanket that she snuggles into.  When I first had to leave her I would put her crate (door open so she could enter and exit as she wanted to), food, water, toys and puppy pads in a small bathroom with a radio turned on outside the door. Now we have an exercize pen in the garage with all her stuff since I have to work for 6 hours - she's four months and I don't think it's safe yet for her to roam without us.  We also got these dental chews from the vet that Tink loves!  They were a little spendy, but she'll chew on them for hours.  They look like a rawhide strip.  We got the large dog size so she can chew till she falls asleep.  Hope this isn't too long!


Sharon, mom to 5 skin kids and one well loved rattie named Tink!
"Getting there isn't half the fun - it's all the fun" Robert Townsend
tauney4


Pack Leader
Pack Leader
06/13/2008 12:00 AM  
DO YOU have an old shirt that has your scent on it? try that. or i know they are $$$$$ but there are things that sounds like a mothers heart beat and that can work too!!!!!
dtls224


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/13/2008 2:27 AM  
I just sold a litter of puppies and what we found to do was to cover the door of the pen and make sure all of the lights were out but to leave something running...a fan worked great for the pups but a radio so she can hear voices. My 7 month old still has issues but if we cover her pen door she quiets down after a few minutes. Also once you can tell the difference in the cries (yes just like the human kind) you will learn to ignore the whiing and crying and she will learnt hat she cannot get her way by crying for you.

Rainy, the 7 month old, is obsessedly in love with my husband so we let her sleep with his old tshirts after he has worn them...they work...

tina224...live...laugh...love...and bark at the moon

He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." ~Unknown
braeli_bryson


Terrier Terror
Terrier Terror
06/13/2008 11:59 AM  

Posted By tiggarat on 06/09/2008 5:25 PM
aaww, she's a cutie. you got a lot of great advice above. enjoy your pup while she's so tiny...this stage passes quickly, and you'll miss it, especially the snuggling phase.

quick question, though...when looking at adopting an older rattie, did you look at ratbones rescues at all? many here are either foster parents for ratties, or have adopted from them...

 

god i miss the snuggle phase!!! my furbabies act sooo grown up now!!!

that puppy is very cute! hang in there... its rewarding!!!

 


"No one knows YOU better than YOU!"

gianni_mahopac, ny
bryson: pearl tri color | braeli: chocolate tri color.
Maureen


Firehouse Big Dog
Firehouse Big Dog
06/13/2008 4:46 PM  
Hi! You need to download Firefox...had the same problem with Safari. I love using that browser...but firefox works!

Maureen Mom to Abby, Barkley and Reggie..and cat Sarah Jane

Scratch a dog and you'll find a permanent job. ~Franklin P. Jones

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